Comments on: Hazing!

By: Wayne Hsieh delta-theta Z

Wayne Hsieh delta-theta Z — Thu, 02 Mar 2006 21:37:49 +0000

I know hazing is not a part of our chapter as well…because we’re not TKE or Sig Eps haha (just kidding). anyway, like what brother (Jim) Stephen Foral said, there are things that are far more tougher than push ups or drinking that can test your manhood. Believe it not, I was an international student from Taiwan and I worry about getting deported back to Taiwan because I cannot find a job to stay in the US. The fear of having no control over my life is far more tougher than whatever hazing that is going on at those particular chapters. Hazing is stupid, period.

By: Tom Earp

Tom Earp — Fri, 03 Feb 2006 20:42:49 +0000

Hazing is a very Taboo subject and should never be tolerated within Lambda Chi Alpha.

Being a Moderator on a Greek Chat site, I see this dailey and wonder why.

It can be harmful to an individual who was thought well enough to be Associated, it can cause the Chapter to be closed, and it surely can and has because of Risk Management increased our insurance costs.

The problem is, that whether it be LXA or anyother Greek Organization, it reflects on each of us as people and Organizations.

As Founder of a Local that forbid hazing, LXA was the perfect fit for us in 1966. It still holds true for us to this day.

By: Todd Levari

Todd Levari — Thu, 02 Feb 2006 22:43:53 +0000

John.

Young brothers usually look for some threshold that must be crossed by new associate members before they are "full" members. The easiest threshold that they can think of is the threshold that they crossed. If they encountered hazing along their path, you can bet that they will probably come to believe that these hazing practices were appropriate.

We all tend to think that what was OK for us must be OK for others. This is so because we struggle to see the world through anyone's eyes except our own. Therefore, we fail to recognize that many feel different than we do or did about a certain circumstance.

Most of those who felt hazed during their associate days soon leave the chapter. They see the hypocrisy of the ritual and move on. Look at the chapters that haze and you will find that they have poor membership retention. Those that remain do not define the hazing activities that they experienced as hazing, but as the elements of a "common bond" that they and all others before them experienced. Thus, it becomes very difficult to break the cycle. Sometimes, recolinization is the only way. 20-year old men do not usually listen to older men who advise them that what they are doing is wrong.

I hope that I have answered your question. In the meantime, remember that associates that refuse to tolerate hazing, but who also refuse to quit, go on to become the most beloved brothers.

Todd Levari High Pi EKZ @ Drexel University

By: D. Clyde - Iota Rio, Parsons College

D. Clyde - Iota Rio, Parsons College — Thu, 02 Feb 2006 21:53:50 +0000

I agree with (Jim) Stephen Foral, Hith Pi - Loyola Marymount University. I came from an era that hazing was the only right of passage for ANY worthy organization. Today is a new world and hazing is no longer politically correct, thanks to a handful people that could not cut the mustard, Plus the trial lawyers making it illegal. History shows us the voices that cried and wined their way to change hazing, are still to this day on the outside looking in. Many are outcasts at work as well. My suggestion is to stay well on this side of the law and recruit with knowledge of the person. Equality is based on BROTHERHOOD.
Well stated Brother Jim.
ZAX,
Clyde

By: S

Wed, 04 Jan 2006 16:37:59 +0000

When people overcome adversity together they form a bond that lasts a lifetime. A lot of men long for this bond and see hazing as an easy way to form it despite all the negative consequences.